Bridging Political Divides: A Conversation with Tony Woodlief on Toxic Polarization and Federalism

In this episode of Atlas Network with Michael Carnuccio, the focus is on toxic polarization and its impact on the advancement of liberty. Our podcast host Michael Carnuccio speaks with Tony Woodlief, the Executive Vice President of State Policy Network (SPN), about the damaging effects of political tribalism in America and the potential for bridging these divides through efforts like their film 'Undivide Us,' now airing on PBS. Tony defines the concept of toxic polarization, the importance of state-level solutions through federalism, and the role of a durable freedom infrastructure in rejuvenating civic engagement. He also discusses the broader mission and impact of State Policy Network and Atlas Network in the worldwide freedom movement. The conversation touches on the value of understanding and empathy in political discourse and offers insights into creating meaningful, civil discussions among Americans. Tony shares his motivations and personal anecdotes, emphasizing the need for localized action and love for one’s neighbors as the foundation for broader societal change.

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Show Notes / Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to Atlas Network

00:19 Understanding Toxic Polarization

00:40 Guest Introduction: Tony Woodlief

01:08 Defining Tribalism and Toxic Polarization

03:51 Public Opinion and Media Influence

06:14 Impact of Polarization on Public Policy

10:51 State Policy Network's Mission and Work

13:29 The Importance of SPN Annual Meeting

16:38 Creating the Film 'Undivide Us'

19:14 Encouraging Civil Discourse

23:21 Feedback and Impact of 'Undivided Us'

25:21 Getting the Documentary on PBS

26:10 The Role of Luck and Hard Work in Success

26:38 Challenges of Airing Documentaries on PBS

27:19 Public Support for Television and Government Authority

28:39 Impact of the Documentary on Free Market Think Tanks

31:17 Federalism and Its Importance in Liberty

34:37 Building a Durable Freedom Infrastructure

39:43 The Worldwide Freedom Movement and State-Based Think Tanks

43:42 Personal Motivations and Leadership

50:33 Advice for Making a Difference in Your Community